Voyeurism into the Kpop fandom Part 2 B - Crazy Fangirls....not to be left out Fanboys can be too

So I realized along with my crazy fangirls post I should have said fans.... So let me correct that now. Because not be outdone let's include fanboys. I won't get into great detail as I don't have a lot of experience with it (ya know cuz I'm a girl) but who doesn't remember this incident at the beginning of last year?

SNSD's Taeyeon attempted abduction while performing Angel Price Music Festival. That's right a fanboy walked right on stage and attempted to pull her off. Luckily for her Sunny was right there and paying attention. Sunny can be seen following them and then grabbing Taeyeon to stop them. And props to the MC of the event who started wrestling with him to let her go until security got there. Watch it here>>



Now I'm not here to debate if the performance should have continued or not. But I will say that it's a crazy situation. Once again it shows the lengths that certain fans will go to obtain the person of their obsession. (and here you thought I was just being mean) There's an article HERE on AllKpop about the incident.

What I find more disturbing is that SM Ent. decided NOT to press charges because he was student and very, very sorry. Article HERE.

*ok personal opinion*
So it's no wonder that SM has such a bad reputations concerning their artists. From slave contracts to kidnapping SM has practically covered all the bases. I mean really?! No pressing of charges? That sends a great message. "Hey as long as your a good student and very sorry, you can grab one of our idols off stage during a live performance it's ok. As long as we catch you and you don't hurt her/him, FREE PASS." Throw in SBS Gayo Daejun 2011 and no wonder their new motto is becoming 'EAT FOOD'. Check out this Tumblr for a good laugh.

My opinion on the Crazy Fangirl Phenom...

After some thought I decided to post this portion. Remember this is just my thoughts and opinions on the matter talked about in the post below. Negative comments will be deleted. You don't have to agree... you don't have to read it... you have been warned.

So here are my thoughts on this phenomenon. You people need to get a grip. Here’s the thing, I can understand that they seem they are the perfect one for you. That there are things that you think you love, but in reality there is no reality. What I mean is that more times than not it is a persona that they present, but are not truly like what they are. Sometimes it’s close, sometimes it’s not. Bottom line they’re human, with thoughts and emotions just like everyone else. They can’t help it if they fall in love and isn’t it sad that they have to hide it. (Most companies won’t let them publicly release the info, or they simply chose not to because of all the anti’s* that come out of the woodwork.) Imagine you are them; someone you don’t know comes up to and says “I like you. I admire who you are and what you do. BUT you can never be with anyone, you have to be single and alone for as long as I like you.” Suckage right? Now that’s how they probably feel. Being under scrutiny already is hard, having to do it alone? Heartbreaking.

I’m not saying that you can’t plaster your walls with their posters, scream and be excited when you see them and simply adore them from afar, but do so as a fan. To be a fan you would want the person of your adoration happy correct? But to say mean things because they are dating, could be or otherwise, is simply not nice behavior ever. Would they be proud to call you their fan if they knew what you were doing? Bottom line is that they are human and have a right to happiness just like everyone else. Who are we to say that someone isn’t pretty enough, good enough or whatever enough? We don’t know who that other person is. Or what attracted them in the first place. We don’t live in their everyday lives and see the everyday actions that take place between them. Who are we to say who is worthy of another person? It’s not our place to say or decide.

All people deserve love. Everyone is worthy. To stand up and say otherwise is just ignorant. They are human, not property no matter how many of the photobooks, movies, cds or posters you buy. They make mistakes, have bad habits, get grouchy, have bad days and on and on. If you recognize that in them, then you can consider yourself a true fan.

Voyeurism into the Kpop fandom Part 2 - Crazy Fangirls

So I decided that I'll jump around simply because I can. Mostly when things I observe remind of something blog worthy. What's caught my attention lately is Fangirls. That's right that screamin, crying mass of girls and women that drool over the smexiness of idols despite age, race and culture. Everyone has heard of them and I'm not saying that I'm not one. 'Cause I am.

But this post is going to talk about the fangirls extreme thoughts that I've seen, I've started to refer to them as Crazy Fangirls. (Granted everyone is entitled to say/feel whatever they want no matter how crazy, but along those lines I'm also allowed to believe that you are bat sh*t cray cray for thinking it.) If you don’t like what I’m about to say/talk about or think you’ll be offended, stop reading now.

I'm not talking about normal "I'm your fan, I love your work, I can't believe I met you ...please sign ____ “ fangirl…. I'm talking about almost the extreme opposite. The "Here's my altar, I sent you 50,000 letters, and one day we will get married" Crazy Fangirls. I’m not saying that this is something that exists only in the Kpop fandom, because it certainly doesn't. But since that's what I have the most experience with, it's what I'm going to mostly refer to (and some Jrock fandom I've experienced/and or read about).

A good example of good fangirls gone bad (so you have something to refer to) is the ones that generally follow Justin B. Now his aren't something to F with, they will seriously put you on the side of a milk carton. Look at what they did when they found out he was dating Selena Gomez. Fortunately for him and his gf he was able to stand up and tell them to stop and mean it. By publicly stating that he didn’t approve of their actions, he put a stop to most of the shannigans. Now I’m not his fan (yeah whatever hate me if you must but I’ll never be) but I have to say that was a pretty gutsy move on his part. Basically it was a take it or leave it, this is who I’m with and I don’t need your opinion but you WILL respect her and my decision man thing to do.

Ok to the point. The thing that I notice with some fangirls that 'ship some kind of male idol simply pull everything out of context or have extremist thoughts. This happens almost exclusively when there are rumors of them dating. If such a thing happens usually the response ranges from "I'm so happy for _____" to "I'm going to string that _____ up and dump her body". I can say that they truly don't want anyone to be with them unless it's them. I don't know for certain if they believe that if they were to ever to meet them, the idol would fall irrevocably in love with them or if they truly want that person to be single forever. I’ve seen comments that ranged from “She’s not pretty enough to be with ____”, “She looks like a dog”, “what was ____ thinking?!”, “ ____ could do so much better than that!”, “She’s a whore” “She’s too fat/dumb/skinny/ugly/short/tall/whatever” or simply “I don’t believe it, ____ isn’t good enough.” My question is compared to who? You? Another celeb? And what makes you think that they need our approval? Or anyone has a right to decide on what or who makes them happy? (Sadly though they are afraid of anti’s for several reasons that I won’t get into, so they do hide relationships …. Example would be Papa YG and Se7en)

An example would be TOP from Big Bang. I like TOP. I could say I fangirl over him. But do I want him to be eternally alone??? UMMMM NO. (Would I be a little disappointed if it wasn’t Bom? Yes… lol sue me they’re one of my OTPs) I’ve read in several places where people say things like “I can’t imagine shipping him with anyone”, “he’s mine (in a serious manner)” or they will simply cuss you out for even thinking it. He has stated in an interview that took place after his movie “71 into the Fire” that he doesn’t see himself getting married until he’s in his 40’s. Someone’s comment on that “I don’t want to see him with anyone ….EVER”. (Really? So you want him to be sad and alone for the rest of his life. I’m sure he’s so glad you’re his fan. Case in point his ex-girlfriend. He even wrote a song about it, because he was feeling so guilty she was being harassed.) And oh the arguments I’ve seen because he has no age limit on love. He seems to like the noonas (older women) but say that to someone younger than him and all hell breaks loose. “He said he likes to be called oppa” (ya know cuz it happened one time on some program) “But he said he likes to date older women..” (ya know cuz of his last gf) and on and on and blah blah blah. I’m sure that his answers weren’t scripted to some degree at all or YG didn’t tell him what he could or couldn’t say. (<<< that was sarcasm)

Another couple of examples would be Se7en and GACKT. I read somewhere, I don’t honestly remember, that GACKT had simply taken a picture with a girl at an airport gate and people assumed she was his girlfriend. It started a shark feeding frenzy. People started to threaten her life, pranked her all time, all kinds of stuff. It was so bad, GACKT had to go on record to state what happened and clarify. OVER A PICTURE and RUMOR PEOPLE! I guess the girl had it so bad that she changed her number and moved. (Personally I believe this is one of the reasons he either flat out refuses or shy's away from taking pictures with fans in random settings.) Se7en’s is fairly simple he announced he had been dating the same girl for 9 years and lost 70,000 fans in one day. (I’m assuming from his fan group memberships.)

On a personal level I have a friend who’s been very fortunate to meet several Kpop idols. She’s a doll and completely funny. But when she posted these online after meeting them, she basically eluded that many people were calling her names and basically being mean to her. And for what reason? Simply because she was lucky enough to meet them, interact with them and get her picture with them. Yeah that’s a good reason to be a jerk. (Now I can’t say all fangirls are like this. When I met several Jrock artists and posted pictures and told my stories to go with it, fangirls were nothing but nice. They were excited as I was and had nothing but nice things to say to me.)

But I have also heard some disturbing stories about how far these cray cray fangirls will go. I can’t even discuss them because they are so far out there. It is something that is disgusting and simply insane. So this brings us to ---

CRAZY FANGIRL RULE #2: IF I CAN’T HAVE YOU, NO ONE CAN. You will be lonely and sad for as long as I say and unless I approve.

And if you don’t agree with this please refer to CRAZY FANGIRL RULE #1 HERE.

Keep Calm and don’t be a Crazy Fangirl …. That is all.

*I have dediced to omit my opinions on this matter for a later post. I will decided whether or not to put it up as part B on a later date. It’s all typed up, but solely my opinion on this phenomenon. So maybe later.*

Voyeurism into the Kpop fandom or The Soap Opera known as the Kpop Fandom Part 1

{I have decided to split this up into parts as it covers several years and experiences. Read on dear reader, read on.}
So gentle reader I shall endeavor to tell you what I know/have experienced/observed in the the entity known as the Kpop Fandom. First I'll talk about the different names for the fandoms and move on to some personal experience.

Kpop is that wonderful sound given to us from Korea that makes us laugh, cry, dance, scream, shout and enjoy. The music can range from individuals, individuals solo(ing) from groups and groups....large groups.

First thing that you should know that almost all the fandoms have names. Here are some examples (link will be provided to credit the site I found them and the explanation behind the names)
2NE1 - Blackjacks*
Big Bang - VIPs*
SNSD (So Nyeo Shi Dae) Aka Girl's Generation - S♥NE or SONE **
Rain - Clouds*
Se7en - Lucky Seven*
SS501 - Triple S**
Wonder Girls - Wonderfuls
Super Junior - ELFs (Everlasting Friends)**
DBSK/TVXQ (Dong Bang Shin Ki) - Cassiopeia aka Cassies

There are a ton more...one for EVERY group, but you can find them HERE and how they got their name. Also an FYI every group has a dedicated COLOR as well. Those are listed there as well.
(* denotes what fandom I am a part of and ** denotes I like some of their music, but am not a part of their fandom.)

First let me just stress that this is my own experiences I've had Kpop fandom and is only my experiences on the good, the bad, the ugly, the scary, the torch carrying, the loving, the adorable, the helpful and more of the Kpop fandom and their groups. Keep that in mind as I write this. I don't want to end up on the side of a milk carton. Just kidding... no seriously I don't want to. Some of the fans be CRAY CRAY to the CRAZY, but I'm jumping ahead of myself.

Let's start at the very beginning about oh.... 3 years ago when I really got into the Kpop scene. I blame Full House. Once I saw how adorable Bi Rain was I thought "Wow and he sings and dances? Sign me up!" I don't quite remember how I found a support group for my new obsession, but I did and soon became a U.S. Cloud. ( I believe it was through soompi, but after a bad Joogbo experience I have never been back so who knows.) The thing is when you like someting that was out of the box back then like Kpop, really there was no one to talk to. I loved my Cloud family as we would set up chat parties and fangirl over Bi. We'd vote so he would make the top 100 and all squee as he made a guest appearance on the Colbert Report.

I never really had a bad experience with Clouds. I still talk to several today. I can't say that I'm a huge fan of Bi like I used to be, but I'm not an anti either. I love his work when he was with JYP, but when he branched out, I don't know it just felt like he lost something. But that's just me. Hey I own Ninja Assassin and Full House, I'm still a Cloud more or less.

The only bad experience I had (that should have been my FIRST clue of how vicious some fans could get) was when there was a chat going on. The Wonder Girls had just released "Tell Me". I had no idea who that was, what song that was, or anything so when someone said to watch it in the chat, well I did. I like it. It was ok. But it was a little bubblegum pop for my taste, but I never hated it or anything.
This the way the convo went (yes it scarred me that bad I remember it almost 2 or 3 years later)
HER: Have you seen the Wonder Girls new song Tell Me? OMG it's great.
{lots of spatter in between some saying yes other no}
HER: OMG here's the link...hfdsahfdaljhfa Go watch it!
Me and others: ok
Others: Wow it's really good! I like it's so catchy. (See they knew better.)
Me: It was good.
Her: I almost have the whole dance memorized.
Others: yeah me too! blah blah blah
Me: The dance looks fun... great cardio workout lol
{I'm sure somewhere after my comment horns sprung from fans heads and my name was added to the "she who must be torched" list.}
Her: What?! ARE YOU DUMB?! What are you trying to say!! IT'S THE WONDER GIRLS!!!
Me: The dance just looks like a good work out is all. {All cyber eyes on me. I had broken crazy fan girl rule 1)
Her: Whatever....
{Ignored until I logged out feeling sad and confused all at once.}

But SHAME on you for ever having your own opinion and not being a blind follower.

This brings us to Crazy Fangirl RULE 1 : NEVER DISAGREE or Have an opinion that is different than theirs.

The thing about the Kpop fandom is once you've been brought into that excitment, you just want to find out more and more and more. And that gentle readers is where I'll leave off for now... I will post more tomorrow...It's gonna be a post series. Don't put me on a milk carton!!